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My (Not So Perfect) Interview

I interviewed w/ Kellogg MBA yesterday.  It didn’t go 100% like how I planned, but I’m fairly confident I still did a decent job and after writing this post I’m going to stop reading into everything that happened.

First of all, it’s w/ an alum in town.  It’s always a bit of a wild card… I expected he probably had a given set of questions to ask and that was the case.  We scheduled it for Friday at 4pm at a Starbucks near his work place, which is not exactly idea condition but we had been playing phone/email tag a little I didn’t want to delay it any further.

The reason I say it’s not ideal is b/c what is on most people’s mind on Friday afternoon?  They want to get home, go to happy hour!  I can read that if my responses start to get a little long winded he would start to frown a little (Not that I’m some expert on microexpression like Paul Ekman/Cal Lightman).  Because of this I would wrap some responses up or truncate some without possibly fully answering the question.

I had originally wanted to flip the table on the interviewer first by asking his career path and how Kellogg played a part in it.  I wanted to do this so when the proper opportunity arises I can relate back to his response 1) to build rapport and 2) show that I was listening.  But he just jumped right into the questions.  I should’ve insisted on my plan b/c I really didn’t feel like I fully build the rapport and connection first and it was harder for me to read the interviewer.  I swear the only time he cracked a smile was when we talked about Maine, where he grew up at the end.

Subsequently, I can tell I had more filler words, more nervous, and voice box tightening… I struggle a little bit right out of the gate on a standard question and desperately tried to recover.  While I wouldn’t say it was a total disaster, I didn’t leave full of confidence like before either.

The interviewer himself did say that he think the MMM program is a good fit for me, but he also asked me how many schools I applied to and said that there’s always the element of chance when it comes to admissions.  Was he asking and saying this b/c he was planning to write a favorable report back to AdComm? Or unfavorable to see that I didn’t put all my eggs in one basket.  Hard to say… and now, I’m done torturing myself trying to read into things that isn’t there.  I done the best I could and I’m going to adjust my game plan a little to fully prepare for Fuqua next week and that’s all I could ask of myself.


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My Accepted

Well, I got into Foster!  At least we know that in the fall I have at least A school to attend.  I was out with a friend when the Admissions Director called me otherwise I would’ve answered.  Funny enough we were talking about formulating a plan for him to go back to school and switch jobs.

It’s a huge weight off my shoulders now that I have been accepted at least somewhere and the applications for other schools have been turned in.  I also got invited to interview w/ UNC Kenan-Flagler, so at least everything is going smoothly so far.  Hopefully I get invited to interview at Fuqua, Anderson and Kellogg as well.  Now I can focus more on the family business and maybe take some time off before summer.

Our Q1 is pretty booked right now.  Our family business can be an indicator for general economy sometimes.  I think most people are upbeat about 2011 and our orders reflect that.  I have a lot I want to get done before I return to school.  We have couple of accounts we’re working on and I’m optimistic we can make some good progress.

Look for a some change in direction and focus for the blog.  I’d like refine what I write about and provide resources for like-minded others.

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My Kellogg

Interested in hearing about Kellogg and save some traveling cost? Well read on.

I picked to visit Kellogg in the winter b/c I wanted to see how bad it might get.  It probably wasn’t the worst of it in late November, temperature was right around freezing (layers ppl!).  Maybe I’m weird, but I want to see the schools at its possible worst.  I visited Foster right around when it starts getting nasty as well.  I’ve been living in Texas but it didn’t really bother me.  Although I might consider wearing my Under Armor leggings more.

A friend of mine is in the JD/MBA program but I didn’t realize that their first year they’re at the campus in down town Chicago (they come back to Evanston their 2nd year to take all the business courses and they’re back to down town their 3rd year at the law school).  A lot of people were just flying in for interviews or visit and flying right out later that night.  I was here to visit another client in Wheeling so I took my time, plus I wanted to check out Chicago-Booth as well.  I hear Booth is more individual based curriculum, so it’d be interesting to see.

First impression: Evanston has a pretty cozy college town feel.  Northeast decor.  Most people are within 10-15 minute walk to school.  The Admissions Office is on the 2nd floor and the entrance I came in the only way to access it was an elevator (at least I couldn’t find any stairs), which I always feel really silly, not to mention a fat lazy bum when I take the elevator to go up one floor.  Quite a few people have these water bottle swags Bain gave out and w/ the laptop program many people end up using these same IBM laptops… it’s a personal thing and maybe I’ve been living in Austin for way too long but it really rubbed me the wrong way.

Environment: B+
The only reason it didn’t get an A is b/c I know it gets really, REALLY cold in Chicago from my previous trips to the city.  Northwestern’s campus is right on the lake too so once the wind picks up… oy.  I didn’t get to check out Evanston that much, but it looks like a pretty typical college town.  I remember it was gorgeous in the spring or fall.  There are some converted “high rise” apartment buildings and there are more “vintage” apartments.  If you come to admit weekend for Day At Kellogg or (DAK) they do some apartment housing tours.  About 25% of the students live in McManus and if you want to live there you don’t have any problems w/ space filling up.  Rent is pretty expensive.  I think most students were telling about $1,100 a month for a studio size apt.  A small percentage of students commute in from down town Chicago.

Job prospect: A+
You’re in Chicago, lots of companies recruit here and you’re at one of the top top schools, especially in marketing.  Consulting really dominates the recruiting feels like.  Most consulting firms like McKinsey, Bain, Boston Consulting Group, and Deloitte all probably end up hiring somewhere between 35-60 grads.  As for marketing it feels like Kraft has a really strong presence on campus.  Didn’t hear or talk to too many people that were interested in finance or i-banking.

School: B
With almost 1,400 students total it does feel a little cramped inside Jacobs Center.  I suspect the winter has a little to do with it b/c maybe if it was warm some of the people would’ve been outside.  Some of the classrooms are a little cramped as well.  It’s definitely a tight squeeze to get to the center seats.  Kellogg has an atrium, where most students meet for lunch etc.  They have some deli/cafe food and an Einstein Bro’s.  Food on average is maybe slightly above mediocre.  It also has a LSR, stands for Loud Study Room, and a QSR, which I’ll let you guess what that stands for (they’re really big on acronyms at Kellogg, even more so than any of the schools I’ve attended/visited).  It also has some designated study and team meeting areas you can visit.

Edit: I just met up a with a friend of mine the other day and she asked me if I thought the building was “old.”  I have couple other friends who visited thought Jacobs Center is old compared to these shiny brand new modern buildings some of the other MBA programs have.  That thought did not cross my mind at all during my visit.  There are places where the concrete of the wall is exposed and can be an eye sore.  It is older, but that aspect didn’t bother me.  Go visit if you have the chance and see if that’s an issue for you.

Curriculum: A
You’ll have about 3-5 classes to choose from, depending  on which time slot you want to go sit in.  I was a little torn between the Marketing Strategy and Business Strategy class.  I ended up picking Marketing just b/c it’s what Kellogg is known for.  It’d be like steak house and not getting a steak.  I was glad I did b/c Prof Julie Hennessy was the one teaching the class.  Hennessy is one of the star professors and very popular.  Expect to use up most of your bidding points* trying to sign up for her class.  Another popular professor is Harry Kraemer.

Kellogg has 19 different concentrations and I think somewhere around 250 courses.  It’s a little overwhelming for me like a kid at a candy store.  9 core courses, 15 electives, and the way concentrations overlap, it’s not rare to end up w/ 4 concentrations by the time you graduate.

Classes on average is pretty evenly divided between cases, lecture, and group work.  No classes on Wednesdays.

You also have the joint-degree programs like the JD/MBA, the MMM (Engineering + MBA), EMBA, and One Year.  I’m personally interested in the MMM program given our family business background in manufacturing.

*You are given 2,000 pts each year to bid for classes you want.  It’s up to you how to allocate it.  The average I’ve been hearing for Hennessy’s class is 1,200.

Students: A
People were all pretty friendly and visiting w/ one another before class started.  I visited on the last day I could visit class and I believe it was the last day of class as well so by now people have definitely gotten to know each other.  No closet cases like I’ve seen at some schools.  Kellogg is student driven.  The KWEST and GIM trips are all organized by students.

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